Ken, You said single shot,but there are bolt guns that are single shot and break actions that are single shot also. You list the rib as both a Vent Rib and a Solid Rib...I think you mean it is a solid raised rib??? BTW Westernfield didn't make any firearms, but had their trade name stamped on existing models. Our Hosts cross chart shows 2 break action single shots. One is the Savage/Stevens/Springfield Model 94B(no rib) The other is by an unknown maker and no discription or info source is given. Also Wards used a system of numbers or numbers and letters to ID the manufacturer and the specs. Like 93M-213A or 04M-489A or the Unknowm makers mark of 110 later models carried markings like XNH-565. You can go the the on-line cross chart for more codes. OR run this by www.bluebookinc.com. I don't recall a ribbed single shot being marketed as a Hardware gun. maybe the rib was added aftermarket for use as a Trap gun or Card gun?
Numrich Archiver
Joined: February 2010
Posted: February 7, 2007 03:56 PM
Ken, You said single shot,but there are bolt guns that are single shot and break actions that are single shot also. You list the rib as both a Vent Rib and a Solid Rib...I think you mean it is a solid raised rib??? BTW Westernfield didn't make any firearms, but had their trade name stamped on existing models. Our Hosts cross chart shows 2 break action single shots. One is the Savage/Stevens/Springfield Model 94B(no rib) The other is by an unknown maker and no discription or info source is given. Also Wards used a system of numbers or numbers and letters to ID the manufacturer and the specs. Like 93M-213A or 04M-489A or the Unknowm makers mark of 110 later models carried markings like XNH-565. You can go the the on-line cross chart for more codes. OR run this by www.bluebookinc.com. I don't recall a ribbed single shot being marketed as a Hardware gun. maybe the rib was added aftermarket for use as a Trap gun or Card gun?
Thanks for the reply - I'm sorry - not great with all the terms. It is a break action single shot and the barrel has a solid raised rib with one bead. On the front of the receiver it has about a half inch of raised rib also to match the barrel. I need to replace the receiver (long story) and have tried an Excel and Iver Johnson, but the fit wasn't that good and they did not have that little bit of raised rib on them. It is my father-in-law's gun and I am pretty sure that it was purchased the way it currently is with no aftermarket additions. I will try your suggestions. Thanks again.
Numrich Archiver
Joined: February 2010
Posted: February 7, 2007 04:29 PM
Thanks for the reply - I'm sorry - not great with all the terms. It is a break action single shot and the barrel has a solid raised rib with one bead. On the front of the receiver it has about a half inch of raised rib also to match the barrel. I need to replace the receiver (long story) and have tried an Excel and Iver Johnson, but the fit wasn't that good and they did not have that little bit of raised rib on them. It is my father-in-law's gun and I am pretty sure that it was purchased the way it currently is with no aftermarket additions. I will try your suggestions. Thanks again.
Ken, Just so that you are aware of the situation. Purchasing a frame is exactly the same, by law, as purchasing a complete firearm...the reciever is the firearm. To do this, except,in person, in the State in which you reside requires an Class 01 FFL Dealer License or the sale and transfer has to be made with the services of such a dealer. That said, maybe you should edit the long story and tell us what is wrong with the reciever you have. There are some fairly bad conditions that can be repaired. Particularily if the reciever is impossible or near impossible to replace. To add to this as a practical matter, firearms of this vintage are not noted for interchangable parts. All will require some "tweaking" but none more than the barrel assy. These are NOT DROP-IN PARTS and some close tolerance and critical dimensions must be maintained. Headspace or the distance between the cartridge seated in the chamber and the face of the reciever is critical. A few thousnadths of an inch to much and you are bordering on having a Hand Grenade tucked up against your face when the gun is fired and not a shotgun. If you do not have a Gunsmith's talents,tools and knowledge, the fitting and repair would best being left to a professional!
Numrich Archiver
Joined: February 2010
Posted: February 7, 2007 06:59 PM
Ken, Just so that you are aware of the situation. Purchasing a frame is exactly the same, by law, as purchasing a complete firearm...the reciever is the firearm. To do this, except,in person, in the State in which you reside requires an Class 01 FFL Dealer License or the sale and transfer has to be made with the services of such a dealer. That said, maybe you should edit the long story and tell us what is wrong with the reciever you have. There are some fairly bad conditions that can be repaired. Particularily if the reciever is impossible or near impossible to replace. To add to this as a practical matter, firearms of this vintage are not noted for interchangable parts. All will require some "tweaking" but none more than the barrel assy. These are NOT DROP-IN PARTS and some close tolerance and critical dimensions must be maintained. Headspace or the distance between the cartridge seated in the chamber and the face of the reciever is critical. A few thousnadths of an inch to much and you are bordering on having a Hand Grenade tucked up against your face when the gun is fired and not a shotgun. If you do not have a Gunsmith's talents,tools and knowledge, the fitting and repair would best being left to a professional!
The frame is toast. In the middle of the refinishing project - many years ago - the in-laws basement flooded and the frame is a solid piece of rust. I know understand that pieces can't be fit together. It is my hope that I can come up with a model # (Western Field SS94B/Stevens 94C?) so that I search the internet (gun shows, pawnshops) to purchase a similar gun (intact). At that time I could replace the wood with mine to make it look like the original.
Thanks.
Numrich Archiver
Joined: February 2010
Posted: February 8, 2007 09:08 AM
Zeke,
I appreciate all your comments.
The frame is toast. In the middle of the refinishing project - many years ago - the in-laws basement flooded and the frame is a solid piece of rust. I know understand that pieces can't be fit together. It is my hope that I can come up with a model # (Western Field SS94B/Stevens 94C?) so that I search the internet (gun shows, pawnshops) to purchase a similar gun (intact). At that time I could replace the wood with mine to make it look like the original.
you were on the right trail with the iver johnson/excel. what you are looking for is an iver johnosn champion matted rib model manufactured in the 1930/1940s. i have seen several of these guns with the 'western field' name on them. the normal champion single barrel frame will work but as stated the rear of the frame will not match due to the matted rib.
Numrich Archiver
Joined: February 2010
Posted: February 8, 2007 12:02 PM
ken,
you were on the right trail with the iver johnson/excel. what you are looking for is an iver johnosn champion matted rib model manufactured in the 1930/1940s. i have seen several of these guns with the 'western field' name on them. the normal champion single barrel frame will work but as stated the rear of the frame will not match due to the matted rib.
